Not liking 'trance' anymore?

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Ultan
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31 August 2013, at 22:20
For around 18 months (probably more now) I have rarely liked any newer 'trance' songs being released, for a long time I have been convinced there is something wrong with what is being released as I usually still enjoy listening to songs that I never heard before from 8-18? years ago.

But recently I remembered something I have been told numerous times, there have been people I know who I end up mentioning that I like trance music to and all that, there have been a number of people who have said they know someone who used to like "Tiesto, and blah blah" but stopped liking him after they reached around the age I am at... but only once has someone said that they know someone who liked trance and stopped liking trance when they reached around my age, and remembering that someone said that before recently got me thinking about this.

So I have been wondering do people stop liking trance when they get to around 17/18 years old like I have (in a way)? (I do still love trance songs/albums/etc. I have loved for a long time but there it is very rare I am loving any new track being released (I honestly can't think of a song from 2013 that I really like :( )

I doubt I will find anyone on a trance forum saying they don't like trance anymore but maybe they might know what I am on about...
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# 1 September 2013, at 00:55
I'm 20 years old now and still enjoy the latest trance tunes as I did in 2008, so I don't think it has anything to do with age. :)
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# 1 September 2013, at 07:02
It's not an age thing. Ok, I'm 40 and when I was 17/18, trance didn't exist yet, but I'm still enjoying a lot of the new tunes made. I even think 2013 is a great year for trance. There have been so many great trance tunes this year it's incredible IMO. Also, when I go to trance parties in Holland, I still see the same faces as I've been seeing for years. Still enjoying it as much as they did years ago.

What I do think is that you're still in search of which music you like. As a teenager I've also been jumping from genre to genre. I've had periods that I was a fan of hiphop, r&b, rock, dance music in general and at the end till now I only love trance. You know what, when electronic dance music started at around 1988 till 1990, I even hated it. Then slowly I started to like it and I completely fell for it when trance got introduced at around 1991/1992, without even knowing a new genre called 'trance' was born (if the name 'trance' already existed)

And the search for the music you like is not intentionally, but goes unnoticed. Suddenly you find out you enjoy other music more and not anymore what you loved before. And some find out younger, some find out at an older age. But at a certain point you stick to a certain genre for maybe the rest of your life ;)
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# 1 September 2013, at 17:54
I kind of get what you're saying, but for me it was more like this: from a certain age and on i started listening to more EDM genres (something that was unspeakable for me before) than feeling i don't like trance anymore. It's not that i was disappointed, because like Remco said there have been some amazing productions during the last couple of years too, but i just felt "maybe there's more?", and well with a twinge of guilt i started exploring more edm genres. Maybe from a certain age and on you feel a bit more open minded about things, and want to learn more?

But in my case i also eventually always end up with trance, it's an eternal love :D :<3:

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# 1 September 2013, at 19:51
Of course I'm not 100% narrow minded when it comes to music, but for me it went in the opposite way. I used to listen and like a lot of genres, from EDM I even liked almost everything. But through the years it got more and more narrowed down to trance. The rest I liked it less and less. Maybe it just went for me that way, that I was in search of what music I liked most and after trying about everything, it turned out it was and still is trance.
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# 2 September 2013, at 20:04
Originally posted by vera
I kind of get what you're saying, but for me it was more like this: from a certain age and on i started listening to more EDM genres (something that was unspeakable for me before) than feeling i don't like trance anymore. It's not that i was disappointed, because like Remco said there have been some amazing productions during the last couple of years too, but i just felt "maybe there's more?", and well with a twinge of guilt i started exploring more edm genres. Maybe from a certain age and on you feel a bit more open minded about things, and want to learn more?

But in my case i also eventually always end up with trance, it's an eternal love :D :<3:




I didn't really mention that there was loads of songs from 2011 that I really liked (I won't bother listing them as it would be a long enough list...) but after 2012 there was just so few songs I just liked in comparison to other years and the good songs from 2012 (as much as I know they're good they just seem to lack a certain quality (if I could try describe it, the best I could say is they didn't feel like trance songs... Solarstone - Fireisland, Eco - Desert Song, are the best examples of the top of my head). In other years I find myself liking the good songs not just because they're good (if that makes much sense..). Also it wasn't just that I didn't really like some songs from 2012, there were a few songs I really hated that I ended up hearing multiple times (to find out why so much people are liking the song and because of the songs being played so much...) (Khomha - Mind Gamer, City Of Angels (Beat Service Remix) are 2 prime examples of this, I know that not liking these songs is purely opinion, lots of people seemed to really like them)


In response to Vera, I do sometimes listen to stuff from other Electronic genres (and some non-electronic but we don't need to get into that), some songs from other genres I really like I could probably name more than 10 Hardstyle songs that I really like, but I don't like the overall genre (for numerous reasons). I too would always to go back to trance because that is what I really like to listen to, but I can't really find myself enjoying "new" trance music he just doesn't seem trancey? Idk what it is, but I do know of people telling me people stopped liking music they liked for years when they reach my age (I still love the songs I've loved for years don't get me wrong...)
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# 3 September 2013, at 04:44
Hi Ultan! I think you raise a pretty good question because I have asked myself the same thing about the trance music being released recently.

First of all, I discovered trance not too long ago...around 2008 when I was 15. Like Remco said, during my teen years I was into all kinds of different types of music. (Some of them were pretty embarrassing haha) I was trying to find something that really suited me. After years of doing research about the genre (constantly searching for new producers, listening to new releases, and discovering older tracks from the early days) I realized that I am completely and totally in love with Trance! So, I don't think age has much to do with it.

As far as your point about not liking the newer trance music - I totally see where you're coming from! To be honest, sometimes I think "What is happening to trance music now?!" After hearing the loads of rubbish tracks being created and with some producers that are just totally going down hill, you get a little disappointed. However, it's definitely not all that bad!! There are TONS of really awesome new tracks and extremely talented up-and-coming producers being established recently! You just have to keep searching! :)

Literally each week I try to listen to all of the new releases from everyone - people I've never even heard of. Do that, and you are bound to hear something you love, and you may even gain a new favorite producer! ;) I really hope I understood your post correctly, and sorry in advance for my rambling! Haha
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Ultan
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# 3 September 2013, at 11:08
Originally posted by Itscaitlin
Hi Ultan! I think you raise a pretty good question because I have asked myself the same thing about the trance music being released recently.

First of all, I discovered trance not too long ago...around 2008 when I was 15. Like Remco said, during my teen years I was into all kinds of different types of music. (Some of them were pretty embarrassing haha) I was trying to find something that really suited me. After years of doing research about the genre (constantly searching for new producers, listening to new releases, and discovering older tracks from the early days) I realized that I am completely and totally in love with Trance! So, I don't think age has much to do with it.

As far as your point about not liking the newer trance music - I totally see where you're coming from! To be honest, sometimes I think "What is happening to trance music now?!" After hearing the loads of rubbish tracks being created and with some producers that are just totally going down hill, you get a little disappointed. However, it's definitely not all that bad!! There are TONS of really awesome new tracks and extremely talented up-and-coming producers being established recently! You just have to keep searching! :)

Literally each week I try to listen to all of the new releases from everyone - people I've never even heard of. Do that, and you are bound to hear something you love, and you may even gain a new favorite producer! ;) I really hope I understood your post correctly, and sorry in advance for my rambling! Haha


I started listening to trance around same time (August 2007 just after I turned 12, but I started listening to progressive psychedelic trance(actually thinking back a lot of it was also ambient stuff too) for the first few months(mostly just Vibrasphere), then slowly started downloading music by more well known trance artists and the rest just fell into place).

Hearing someone else say they listen to some new(er) trance songs and think that there really is just something rubbish about them (I have respect an American saying rubbish instead of "garbage" ;) ) makes me think age definitely isn't what is making me not like the current trance scene (for lack of a better term).

I really don't agree with you saying there are "TONS" of really "awesome" new tracks, because I think that is part of the problem with trance music ATM, there aren't "TONS" there are (a handful/handfuls)
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# 3 September 2013, at 12:42
I am turning 30 this year and would say I love it more than ever, I go to more events than I ever have but I do however go through stages where I dont listen to it as much.

Do get me wrong, i still listen to it daily but maybe not to the extent as i did at the start of the year etc but I dont think it has anything to do with age.

I fell in love with it in the 90's and stuck with it. During that time i have listened to rap, RnB, indie music etc as this is what everyone else has listened to but at the end of the day trance music does stuff to my that i cant put into words.

I can see me being another Remco and still be going to events in my 40s. I may get the odd strange look from the 18 year old but in all honesty i could care less. lol

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# 3 September 2013, at 13:57
Originally posted by Eff_Jay

I can see me being another Remco and still be going to events in my 40s. I may get the odd strange look from the 18 year old but in all honesty i could care less. lol

Hey! I am 40, not in my 40s yet :p

And you should just come to party in Holland, where the average age at trance events at the moment is 35 and is going up every year. Where trance events attracks people from 18 till 60. Yes, that's right, till 60 years old and maybe even older. ;)

And you know what, at the end of the events, at 6 or 7 am, the average age is the highest, when most of the youngsters are long gone and the die hard old school trance fans are still going nuts :)
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# 3 September 2013, at 14:57
I just turned 34 and Have been in the trance scene since I was about 15 or so. Trance back then was way more hypnotic and driving more like psy trance.

I personally fell in love with the style that was around the late 90's and into the 2004-2005 era. This to me was my most favourite time for Trance and I could not get away from it and listened to only Trance for years.

After a while, as the style started to change, the BPMs were slowing and Trance was starting to take in more elements from other EDM genres, I started to find my self not as involved with it anymore. I was no longer spinning out at clubs, the festivals that I loved were changing drastically (Global Gathering, Sensation White & Black, Trance Energy) and some of my favourite artists were quitting all together or changing genres.

This was hard to take and I felt like my music that I loved so deeply was dying a slow death. Then my record shops shut down, and I had to get through the phase of going weekly to the shop and sorting through and listening to each release and coming home with a load of vinyl, to sitting at a computer and listening to one minute previews of a track and buying a file. this also was tough as I loved holding and collecting the music I loved so deeply.

By this time I found myself sticking with the classics, only listening to the years I loved and straying from the current. I spun mostly classic sets and could not let go of my "best times".

Finally, I have come to a point that I needed to get over the "best times" that I was so dearly hanging on to. No, I am not a fan of a lot of the music being produced right now. I just does not hit that chord with me, but through the likes of Solarstone, John Fleming and Armin's WAO 138 movement ( I am a much bigger fan of the more driving euphoric tracks which seem to take a backseat now days) I am starting to finally get back in love with the Trance that was mine for so many years.

Its definitely not an age thing, but more of a age of love with the music. you tend to hold on to. It has been changing and will continue to do so. It is very hard to evolve with it. I know I am still having one hell of a time., however, if you evolve with the music, you will find it is very alive and well. It may take a bit of searching as it is not apparent and as in your face as it was before (IMHO anyway), but there are gems out there and the Trance I loved and still do, is still alive and kicking. :hp:
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# 3 September 2013, at 16:17
Originally posted by R33

Its definitely not an age thing, but more of a age of love with the music. you tend to hold on to. It has been changing and will continue to do so. It is very hard to evolve with it. I know I am still having one hell of a time., however, if you evolve with the music, you will find it is very alive and well. It may take a bit of searching as it is not apparent and as in your face as it was before (IMHO anyway), but there are gems out there and the Trance I loved and still do, is still alive and kicking. :hp:


Exactly! Very well said..I totally agree! :D
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# 3 September 2013, at 20:17
Hardest part is to actually accept that it's evolving, especially when your fav artists decide trance "does not inspire them anymore" and most of all when they start producing music without any style, without any soul really. I have a couple names in mind but that's a whole different topic, but i think this is also one of the reasons one might stop "liking" trance. I mean if your fav artist change style, it will def have an impact on you, i know it happened to me with Tiesto. But yeah eventually i just accepted it.

What i have also noticed is that it bothers me that trance is more popular now than before. I used to feel special when i said "i listen to trance", nowadays so many idiots think they listen to it, that sometimes i don't even want to mention it. Does this sound too selfish and hater-like? :p
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# 3 September 2013, at 20:54
I don't think trance has become more popular. Well at least here it isn't. Here it is even less popular now. Yes, the events are still (almost) sold out, but there are so many more events here with electro house now. Electro house has taken over the position trance had till a couple of years ago. I hear the same trend on the radio. So yes, I'm still proud to say I love trance and that what they play on the radio is garbage. :)

But ye, I agree on the first part you wrote. For me it was very hard to accept Tiësto had left trance as well. I've been in denial for several years. Same happened for me with Leon Bolier recently. But now I've accepted it and I love some other new artists and moved on :)
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Ultan
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# 3 September 2013, at 22:15
Originally posted by vera
Hardest part is to actually accept that it's evolving, especially when your fav artists decide trance "does not inspire them anymore" and most of all when they start producing music without any style, without any soul really. I have a couple names in mind but that's a whole different topic, but i think this is also one of the reasons one might stop "liking" trance. I mean if your fav artist change style, it will def have an impact on you, i know it happened to me with Tiesto. But yeah eventually i just accepted it.

What i have also noticed is that it bothers me that trance is more popular now than before. I used to feel special when i said "i listen to trance", nowadays so many idiots think they listen to it, that sometimes i don't even want to mention it. Does this sound too selfish and hater-like? :p



Most of my favourite artists didn't change style, they just stopped producing... (Kai Tracid, Vincent De Moor, Vibrasphere (although they were a group/couple(couple doesn't feel like the right word...) that separated and came back together at least once but are currently not working together/at all))

To what R33 said:

I understand what you're saying, your post was well written BTW ;) .
If I had to say what my favourite time period of trance music being released would of been 1998, there were just so many synthy sounding trance songs that had a sort of bouncy beat to them that is just enjoyable to listen to for me (I'm probably doing a horrible job of describing the sound). But I have liked trance from 1999-2005 also, again from 2006-2011 loved numerous songs, in 2012 there were good songs, I liked a number of them too (that number would be about a third of how much I liked in 2011), but what I felt was wrong with some of those good songs was they just weren't trance songs... maybe some of those songs were part of the 'evolution' of trance music and I couldn't follow it from that point on. I will also admit I have not been listening to as much music in 2013 than I have in any other (recent) year partly from just not enjoying music from the latter part of 2012 and then hearing some new(er) tracks like "Ferry Corsten - Black Light, Armin van Buuren & Markus Schulz - The Expedition" just makes me not even want to listen to anything...

I will probably edit this post because I was getting distracted by people half way through writing it, and I couldn't think anymore because of it, (I do need to mention there have been songs that are decent from 2013 like "Photographer - Tic Toc (If I am remembering names correctly) and my favourite producer currently working has made some very good songs that were released this year but I didn't love any of them (not trying to take anything away from the quality of his songs they are great don't get me wrong)
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# 4 September 2013, at 18:50
Originally posted by Remco
I don't think trance has become more popular. Well at least here it isn't. Here it is even less popular now. Yes, the events are still (almost) sold out, but there are so many more events here with electro house now. Electro house has taken over the position trance had till a couple of years ago. I hear the same trend on the radio. So yes, I'm still proud to say I love trance and that what they play on the radio is garbage. :)


Like you said, in Holland it hasn't. I live in a different country and i am speaking from experience. Every second person apparently "listens to trance" if you ask them what their favorite genre is nowadays. It pisses me off :undecided:
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