It's happened: The world's most wanted man has been eliminated. Your thoughts?

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DJRANZ
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3 May 2011, at 17:18
As you may have heard, two days ago, the leader of Al-Qaeda and the terrorist known as the World's most wanted man, Osama Bin Laden, perished at the hands of the US Navy SEALs last Sunday. 

When 9/11 first happened, I was anxious and dying for bin Laden to be captured or eliminated. But now that it's actually happened, I just.....don't know how to feel. Should I be overly excited or should I just be neutral about it? If I choose the former, would I be stooping to his level?

What are your thoughts now that it's actually happened?

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# Re: It's happened: The world's most wanted man has been eliminated. Your thoughts? - 3 May 2011, at 19:29
I was in my first year of high school, i can still remember 9/11 like it was yesterday and to hear that the man who caused so much devastation and pain to innocent people is finally gone from the face of the earth is to the say the least a relief
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# Re: It's happened: The world's most wanted man has been eliminated. Your thoughts? - 3 May 2011, at 19:36
I'm not sure why people are saying "it's all over" now Laden's been killed. If anythin I'm worried, it's gonna rally al-qaeda group, seeing their leader in the ground. It's obviously a good thing and it's good to see a president get something done. Found out today, the UK are on nuke alert too...wtf


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# Re: It's happened: The world's most wanted man has been eliminated. Your thoughts? - 3 May 2011, at 21:28
Ofcourse it's a good thing he's been captured, although I'd rather had seen he would've been taken alive and got the punishment he deserved. It was about time tho. With all the technical things they have nowadays, it still took 10 years to find him.

It certainly isn't over now. The world hasn't become any safer, maybe even unsafer. This is again a reason for Al-Qaida to revenge.

And what about the partying in America that he has been killed. I mean, I can understand the relief after all this time, but celebrating someone elses death the way they did in New York and Washington, it seemed as if I was looking at extremists from the Middle East.

Something else also, we see all the images of 9/11 passing by again, but (also in the last 10 years), Bin Laden has made many more victims. Thousends of other people have been killed as well under his leadership. Especially the killings of other (read: real) Muslims is something that is underexposed IMO.
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# Re: It's happened: The world's most wanted man has been eliminated. Your thoughts? - 3 May 2011, at 23:32
Originally posted by zakrush1

Ofcourse it's a good thing he's been captured, although I'd rather had seen he would've been taken alive and got the punishment he deserved. It was about time tho. With all the technical things they have nowadays, it still took 10 years to find him.

It certainly isn't over now. The world hasn't become any safer, maybe even unsafer. This is again a reason for Al-Qaida to revenge.

And what about the partying in America that he has been killed. I mean, I can understand the relief after all this time, but celebrating someone elses death the way they did in New York and Washington, it seemed as if I was looking at extremists from the Middle East.

Something else also, we see all the images of 9/11 passing by again, but (also in the last 10 years), Bin Laden has made many more victims. Thousends of other people have been killed as well under his leadership. Especially the killings of other (read: real) Muslims is something that is underexposed IMO.
I can almost guarantee you they have known for quite a while the area he was hiding, but they say they could not invade yet another country without undeniable proof. On top of all this I guarantee you he was not killed May 1st, or last week. I pray whoever ultimately got him tortured the soul out of his body.

I agree that not much has changed and we are in fact in more dire times than we were between Invading Iraq and right before the Stock Collapse.

I can explain the American party. If there is one thing that needs to be said about the US government and its News affiliates, they are gods at undermining the truth and keeping the masses controlled by trivial shit. Just look at the Royal Wedding, idiots in America got swept up by this Royal shit, not because it somehow matters traditionally, or historically for their nation. No, but because they want to pretend they can just slut it up and marry a prince. While 80% of Brits did not give a shit about the Royal wedding and a lot of them felt the tax money spent was unfairly forced upon them.
They celebrate his death because that is what they believe is the correct government mandated response. If people were more intelligent and sought outside new sources or even thought for themselves they would realize that the US trained Bin Laden and he should be waterboarded over a tank of Orcas, live in Times Square and broadcast worldwide, and that they should be mourning the lives lost and preparing for the harsh times we live in, so that we can improve the situation. [OK I was joking about the torture live broadcast, since it would probably spur spontaneous Terrorism, but he definitely deserves that kind of treatment]

I'm glad you brought up Muslim victims as well, I agree this is mostly unknown in the states. But what do you expect if Obama says he would officially recognize the Armenian genocide and then backtrack on his words, like he has done with nearly all of his campaign promises.
I feel like the young generation is Obi-Wan Kenobi confronting Anakin Skywalker [read Obama {LOL}] YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE CHOSEN ONE! BRING BALANCE TO THE MASSES! NOT DESTROY THEM! TURN YOUR BACK ON THEM!
But hopefully once he's re-elected he can dive into fixing our education system like he promised, saving our social programs by taxing the rich and then he can mve onto acknowledging the many victims of war crimes such as Armenian Genocide and Muslim civil war



p.s - there is also a bit of controversy regarding the perfect deconstruction of the Towers
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# Re: It's happened: The world's most wanted man has been eliminated. Your thoughts? - 4 May 2011, at 10:33
You're probably right about most things, I'm looking at it from a distance and don't know all the details (altho, is there anybody who does?).

And even tho I don't want to get into this too much, cz it's a whole other discussion, about Obama, I like most things he's trying to achieve. Ofcourse he doesn't keep all his promises, but which politician does? And anything better than the 1-cel-brained republicans.

And I don't believe in conspiracy actually. Even tho I hate Bush will all my heart and I'm positive that Bush was capable of a lot of things and I had this conspiracy in my mind as well 9 years ago, I refuse to believe he would be capable of doing this.
Cz if he would be, he would be much worse than Osama has ever been and it would be Bush to deserve the torture.
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# Re: It's happened: The world's most wanted man has been eliminated. Your thoughts? - 4 May 2011, at 22:59
Ya, you're right Obama is doing the best he can with the hand he's been dealt. Sometimes I just wish he was more strict. Unfortunately, the president does not have that much immediate power in our corrupt and broken system, but that is not his fault. I just wish it was possible for him to grab government by the horns and force his way a bit more. If Bush can invade two countries in an unconstitutional matter, I think Obama should be able to put his foot down and say, Universal Health Care for every single citizen, end of story. Otherwise I am pretty happy with him as well. Most people do not realize that these terms are one of the hardest for a president in history.

If we can get Guantanamo closed and pull out of Iraq & Afghanistan by the end of his 2nd term I will be extremely happy. Eventually revising health care to be universal is one of my all time Dreams.

Ya, I don't believe too much in conspiracies either, but the Towers collapsed so perfectly, one might wonder every once in a while
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# Re: It's happened: The world's most wanted man has been eliminated. Your thoughts? - 13 May 2011, at 17:26
Yeah, I don't think it's over yet.  Just because we've taken out the leader doesn't mean Al Qaeda is going to turn tail and give up.  We may have taken out the Joker, but we still have The Penguin, Mr. Freeze and Poison Ivy to deal with (or in this case, Ayman_al-Zawahiri, Al-Qaeda's number 2 guy, and the other figureheads).
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