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Filip Fong
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LHC [Large Hadron Collider] -
7 September 2008, at 22:38
I have actually followed this project for awhile now, and Wednesday, September 10th they gonna start it up. I'm excited.
http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/LHC/LHC-en.html
http://public.web.cern.ch/Public/Welcome.html

What do you think?
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# Re: LHC [Large Hadron Collider] - 8 September 2008, at 00:10
I'm feeling kinda worried... If there is chance for black wholes to whipe us, I don't think they should do it.

But if there is no reason to be worried, as they say, I think this is a big step further for humanity. :)

p.s. And the date is September 10th. ;)
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# Re: LHC [Large Hadron Collider] - 8 September 2008, at 01:26
I watched it getting built on discovery. Pretty crazy stuff.

If all goes well, this will answer lots of questions and open as many new ones. If it doesn't... well, see ya in the next dimension ;)
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# Re: LHC [Large Hadron Collider] - 8 September 2008, at 08:38
Yeah I guess everyone will be pretty worried about Wednesday. No one knows for sure what will happen, only what is predicted. We are trusting a bunch of scientists with our lives, let's hope they got it right!

I think it's really cool though, and if it goes right like it's supposed to, it will be interesting to see what they get out of it.
# Re: LHC [Large Hadron Collider] - 8 September 2008, at 16:18
let see how it goes...
# Re: LHC [Large Hadron Collider] - 9 September 2008, at 19:34
I found this countdown thing on a Macedonian site:
http://warning.blackapplehost.com/

I'm feeling kinda worried :)
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# Re: LHC [Large Hadron Collider] - 9 September 2008, at 19:57
Originally posted by KiKSU

I found this countdown thing on a Macedonian site:
http://warning.blackapplehost.com/

I'm feeling kinda worried :)


8000 scientists say everything's gonna be alright. They can't all be wrong.
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# Re: LHC [Large Hadron Collider] - 9 September 2008, at 20:24
7 Hours 35 mins... that's around 4:00am. I'll be asleep when this happens.
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# Re: LHC [Large Hadron Collider] - 9 September 2008, at 22:17
Originally posted by Ben

7 Hours 35 mins... that's around 4:00am. I'll be asleep when this happens.


The odds of a collision is 1/30 days, so I wouldn't expect it to happen tomorrow anyway.
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# Re: LHC [Large Hadron Collider] - 10 September 2008, at 16:10
Filip Fong
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# Re: LHC [Large Hadron Collider] - 10 September 2008, at 16:18
Yeah, it went rather well. They also sent this live from the Cern website. Broadcast has just ended.

I was reading alittle about this around the net and at cnn they said that today they just turned on the machine and sent the beams around. No collisions yet, but when they are going to collide it won't be at max speed. Max speed can still be a year away.
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# Re: LHC [Large Hadron Collider] - 20 September 2008, at 19:01
Some updates:

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GENEVA - The world's largest particle collider malfunctioned within hours of its launch to great fanfare, but its operator didn't report the problem for a week.

In a statement Thursday, the European Organization for Nuclear Research reported for the first time that a 30-ton transformer that cools part of the collider broke, forcing physicists to stop using the atom smasher just a day after starting it up last week.

The faulty transformer has been replaced and the ring in the 17-mile circular tunnel under the Swiss-French border has been cooled back down to near zero on the Kelvin scale — minus 459.67 degrees Fahrenheit — the most efficient operating temperature, said a statement by CERN, as the organization is known.

When the transformer malfunctioned, operating temperatures rose from below 2 Kelvin to 4.5 Kelvin — extraordinarily cold by most standards, but warmer than the normal operating temperature.

CERN had not reported any problems with the project since its launch Sept. 10, but issued its statement shortly after The Associated Press called asking about rumors of troubles.

Physicists said it wasn't surprising problems would occur in getting a huge and immensely complicated collection of equipment like the Large Hadron Collider up and running smoothly.

"This is arguably the largest machine built by humankind, is incredibly complex, and involves components of varying ages and origins, so I'm not at all surprised to hear of some glitches," Steve Giddings, physics professor at University of California, Santa Barbara. "It's a real challenge requiring incredible talent, brain power and coordination to get it running."

Judith Jackson, spokesman for the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory in Batavia, Ill., echoed that view.

"We know how complex and extraordinary it is to start up one of these machines. No one's built one of these before and in the process of starting it up there will inevitably be glitches," she said.

Fermilab is home to the Tevatron, an accelerator that collides protons and antiprotons in a 4-mile-long underground ring to allow physicists to study subatomic particles. Jackson said transformer malfunctions can be common and aren't dangerous.

"These things happen," she said. "It's a little setback and it sounds like they've dealt with it and are moving forward."

The Large Hadron Collider is designed to collide protons in the beams so that they shatter and reveal more about the makeup of matter and the universe.

After it was started up Sept. 10, scientists circled a beam of protons in a clockwise direction at the speed of light. They shut that down, then turned on a counterclockwise beam.

"Several hundred orbits" were made, CERN's statement said.

On the evening of Sept. 11, scientists had succeeded in controlling the counterclockwise beam with equipment that keeps the protons in the tightly bunched stream that will be needed for collisions, but then the transformer failed and the system was shut down, the statement said.

The clockwise beam was not on at the time. Now that the transformer has been replaced and the equipment rechilled, scientists expect to try soon to tighten the clockwise beam and prepare experiments in coming weeks, the statement said.

Before the problem occurred, scientists had said it would probably be several weeks before the first significant collisions were attempted.
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# Re: LHC [Large Hadron Collider] - 20 September 2008, at 23:03
I heard that it going to take them two months for them to start this experiment again, and I can't believe someone actually hacked into the system after spending $10 billion dollars they still couldn't get it right.Thanks for the update,

imo, what a waste of $6 billion dollars, that $10 billion dollars could've have gone onto say helping poor children in Africa, or in other poor countries.
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# Re: LHC [Large Hadron Collider] - 17 October 2008, at 03:50
I'd have voted cool and scary, but I can only vote for one, so I went with scary. It's cool because it's scary.